Comments on: Tenor or a Baritone? 5 Questions to Help you Decide http://iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed Wed, 09 May 2012 10:28:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Duconi http://iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comment-1865 Duconi Wed, 09 May 2012 10:28:44 +0000 http://beginning-singer.iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/#comment-1865 Hi Ian,i just turned 14,and my vocal range is from e2(d2) to a4(bb4) which i can use in a songs,but in vocal exercises i go to b4,or sometimes c5.But i can't stay on a4.I did vocal exercises.I start being uncomfortable above f#4,it'hard for me to sing there.I am most comfortable in a baritone range now.Three months ago i could sing just to e4.Can you tell me which vocal exercises should i do,and what can my voice type be in future?I want to be a tenor,so is there any chance to be it ?I would like to send you video to tell me what do you think.Sorry,for my English. Hi Ian,i just turned 14,and my vocal range is from e2(d2) to a4(bb4) which i can use in a songs,but in vocal exercises i go to b4,or sometimes c5.But i can’t stay on a4.I did vocal exercises.I start being uncomfortable above f#4,it’hard for me to sing there.I am most comfortable in a baritone range now.Three months ago i could sing just to e4.Can you tell me which vocal exercises should i do,and what can my voice type be in future?I want to be a tenor,so is there any chance to be it ?I would like to send you video to tell me what do you think.Sorry,for my English.

]]> By: John http://iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comment-1864 John Tue, 08 May 2012 19:10:50 +0000 http://beginning-singer.iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/#comment-1864 Hey there, I am 18 years old and it's been one year and a half since I started taking opera lessons.My primo passaggio is at E4 and the secondo at G4(yes I know it's significantly shorter than in most people).I used to be able to go down to E2 easily (it has become strenuous lately though) and I've hit up to B4(although it wasn't very good) during training in full head voice (E6 in falsetto) and I've sung a few counter tenor arias quite efficiently.I have a metallic timbre and my very low notes sound dark and manly.Plus I've pull off the tenor tessitura and the high A natural of a duet from Tosca without much trouble.So.. Based on the above mentioned facts, why do you think my teacher still refuses to admit that I'm a tenor?she says that my voice looks like it's going to get deeper in the future.But the thing is, I hit puberty roughly five years ago.Personally I doupt there is chance that my vocal chords have that much of developement ahead so that my passaggios drop down at least a minor third to much those of a baritone.I'm 90% sure that I'm a spinto tenor.What do you think? Hey there, I am 18 years old and it’s been one year and a half since I started taking opera lessons.My primo passaggio is at E4 and the secondo at G4(yes I know it’s significantly shorter than in most people).I used to be able to go down to E2 easily (it has become strenuous lately though) and I’ve hit up to B4(although it wasn’t very good) during training in full head voice (E6 in falsetto) and I’ve sung a few counter tenor arias quite efficiently.I have a metallic timbre and my very low notes sound dark and manly.Plus I’ve pull off the tenor tessitura and the high A natural of a duet from Tosca without much trouble.So.. Based on the above mentioned facts, why do you think my teacher still refuses to admit that I’m a tenor?she says that my voice looks like it’s going to get deeper in the future.But the thing is, I hit puberty roughly five years ago.Personally I doupt there is chance that my vocal chords have that much of developement ahead so that my passaggios drop down at least a minor third to much those of a baritone.I’m 90% sure that I’m a spinto tenor.What do you think?

]]> By: Harry http://iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comment-1861 Harry Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:07:33 +0000 http://beginning-singer.iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/#comment-1861 Hey Ian. I turned 17 a couple days ago, and I've been working with my voice teacher for 2 years. She classified me as more of a lyric tenor. I sing classical songs and can sing songs like o del amato ben, and on Broadway, Bring Him Home with the best sound utilizing my vibrato. I sing a low Bb2 most comfortably, but require strain to an A2 sometimes. For example, in music of the night, when the phantom sings night TIME, I can't hit the low Ab4. I sing high G4 in chest comfortably without strain. My highest note before straining, however, is an A4 which is also in chest. I can't sing the word"Will" at an Ab4 with comfort, but other vowels are comfortable singing at an A4. So I could sing at and Ah vowel comfortably at an A4. I crack at B4, which my voice teacher says is especially high. My falsetto is actually terrible though, and requires strain past G4, similar to my chest voice. So when I crack into my falsetto it sounds breathy, unpleasent and uncomfortable. I can sing C5 in falsetto but nothing past that. I don't know how to find my passagio though. And I don't know how to tap into my mixed voice yet. My bass friends can easily sing past me in falsetto. What would you classify me as? How do I tap into my mixed voice and work on my falsetto? Thanks, Harry Hey Ian. I turned 17 a couple days ago, and I’ve been working with my voice teacher for 2 years. She classified me as more of a lyric tenor. I sing classical songs and can sing songs like o del amato ben, and on Broadway, Bring Him Home with the best sound utilizing my vibrato. I sing a low Bb2 most comfortably, but require strain to an A2 sometimes. For example, in music of the night, when the phantom sings night TIME, I can’t hit the low Ab4. I sing high G4 in chest comfortably without strain. My highest note before straining, however, is an A4 which is also in chest. I can’t sing the word”Will” at an Ab4 with comfort, but other vowels are comfortable singing at an A4. So I could sing at and Ah vowel comfortably at an A4. I crack at B4, which my voice teacher says is especially high. My falsetto is actually terrible though, and requires strain past G4, similar to my chest voice. So when I crack into my falsetto it sounds breathy, unpleasent and uncomfortable. I can sing C5 in falsetto but nothing past that. I don’t know how to find my passagio though. And I don’t know how to tap into my mixed voice yet. My bass friends can easily sing past me in falsetto. What would you classify me as? How do I tap into my mixed voice and work on my falsetto?

Thanks,
Harry

]]> By: Ed http://iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comment-1860 Ed Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:54:37 +0000 http://beginning-singer.iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/#comment-1860 Hi Ian, Thank you so much for your reply, I guess I'll have to wait and see :-D Ed Hi Ian,

Thank you so much for your reply, I guess I’ll have to wait and see :-D

Ed

]]> By: Mirnes http://iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comment-1859 Mirnes Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:34:38 +0000 http://beginning-singer.iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/#comment-1859 Oh and if you could tell me what excercises to do to add vocal fry to my higher notes. Thanks again. Oh and if you could tell me what excercises to do to add vocal fry to my higher notes. Thanks again.

]]> By: Mirnes http://iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comment-1858 Mirnes Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:01:24 +0000 http://beginning-singer.iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/#comment-1858 Hi Ian, I'm 19 and a rock singer with clean vocals. I started doing some excercises about 5 months ago, but irregulary and extended my vocal range. I can hit F5 on live performance without going into falsetto and hold Eb with vibrato. My practice range is E2 - G5 (strained) (Bb5 with falsetto). I can hold high notes, but sometimes I have a hard time singing in passaggio zone, because of voice cracks. I've never had a professional training, but I do vocal excercises at home. Sometimes I have voice cracks when I speak. My voice lacks depth in lower notes and my comfortable range is about C3 - A4, anything lower lacks depth and is a bit shaky ,but people keep telling me that I will get my real voice when I reach 23. What is your suggestion? What should I do to get stronger voice? Thanks a lot, Mirnes Hi Ian,

I’m 19 and a rock singer with clean vocals. I started doing some excercises about 5 months ago, but irregulary and extended my vocal range. I can hit F5 on live performance without going into falsetto and hold Eb with vibrato. My practice range is E2 – G5 (strained) (Bb5 with falsetto). I can hold high notes, but sometimes I have a hard time singing in passaggio zone, because of voice cracks. I’ve never had a professional training, but I do vocal excercises at home. Sometimes I have voice cracks when I speak. My voice lacks depth in lower notes and my comfortable range is about C3 – A4, anything lower lacks depth and is a bit shaky ,but people keep telling me that I will get my real voice when I reach 23. What is your suggestion? What should I do to get stronger voice?

Thanks a lot,
Mirnes

]]> By: Ian Sidden http://iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comment-1857 Ian Sidden Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:56:55 +0000 http://beginning-singer.iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/#comment-1857 Uncertain. How old are you? Just from this info I'd say baritone. Baritones have high A's when they're warmed up. But there are other variables to consider. Uncertain. How old are you? Just from this info I’d say baritone. Baritones have high A’s when they’re warmed up. But there are other variables to consider.

]]> By: Ian Sidden http://iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comment-1856 Ian Sidden Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:55:48 +0000 http://beginning-singer.iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/#comment-1856 Your voice can change drastically in timbre, power, and stamina from the time adolescent voice change is over to what one might call vocal adulthood. Oftentimes there is a gradual shifting downward of pitch range. Part of this is technique, but part of this is just our slow maturation process. As I approach 30, I am continually surprised at how my voice is changing. And it will continue to change throughout my life, as it will for you. With that in mind, I would be surprised if you were a true lyric baritone in the operatic sense because you're just not an adult yet. Adult lyric baritones who sing operatic repertoire professionally are just in a different place vocally than any teenager can be. Of course you should sing "lyrically", but be careful of comparing yourself to adult baritones. Your voice can change drastically in timbre, power, and stamina from the time adolescent voice change is over to what one might call vocal adulthood. Oftentimes there is a gradual shifting downward of pitch range. Part of this is technique, but part of this is just our slow maturation process. As I approach 30, I am continually surprised at how my voice is changing. And it will continue to change throughout my life, as it will for you.

With that in mind, I would be surprised if you were a true lyric baritone in the operatic sense because you’re just not an adult yet. Adult lyric baritones who sing operatic repertoire professionally are just in a different place vocally than any teenager can be. Of course you should sing “lyrically”, but be careful of comparing yourself to adult baritones.

]]> By: Ian Sidden http://iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comment-1855 Ian Sidden Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:48:55 +0000 http://beginning-singer.iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/#comment-1855 Hi Ed, It sounds like your voice is still changing, so hang tight. Unfortunately, there's nothing you can do to make your voice turn one way or the other. Your true voice will reveal itself over time. For now, focus on what you can sing comfortably. Hi Ed,

It sounds like your voice is still changing, so hang tight. Unfortunately, there’s nothing you can do to make your voice turn one way or the other. Your true voice will reveal itself over time. For now, focus on what you can sing comfortably.

]]> By: Ed http://iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comment-1852 Ed Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:24:45 +0000 http://beginning-singer.iansidden.com/2009/09/tenor-or-a-baritone-5-questions-to-help-you-decide/#comment-1852 Hi Ian, I am 14 years old, my voice is breaking and I am wishing like no tomorrow that when my voice is fully broken I am going to be a Tenor. Until recenlty, (more like 6 months ago), I had a reasonably extensive vocal range that I could exert some considerable power into. Now, my vocal range is from G2 (probably A2 realistically speaking) to Middle C. Anything above middle C, my voice falters and goes quite airy and/or cracks, but with no disscomfort. To hit anything above middle C, I have to use my "head" voice, and that only goes about 2 notes higher. With Anything Below G2, my voice does crack and with discomfort. Please could you give me a few tips on how to strengthen my diaphragm voice and extend my vocal range, and any thoughts on what type of voice I will end up having? Many Thanks, Ed Hi Ian,

I am 14 years old, my voice is breaking and I am wishing like no tomorrow that when my voice is fully broken I am going to be a Tenor.

Until recenlty, (more like 6 months ago), I had a reasonably extensive vocal range that I could exert some considerable power into.

Now, my vocal range is from G2 (probably A2 realistically speaking) to Middle C. Anything above middle C, my voice falters and goes quite airy and/or cracks, but with no disscomfort. To hit anything above middle C, I have to use my “head” voice, and that only goes about 2 notes higher. With Anything Below G2, my voice does crack and with discomfort.

Please could you give me a few tips on how to strengthen my diaphragm voice and extend my vocal range, and any thoughts on what type of voice I will end up having?

Many Thanks,
Ed

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